Originally, I was going to post my thoughts on this in the form of a long Twitter thread, but I thought it would be better served as a well-thought-out piece here. As my platform grows, I continue to see more and more people comment on the sexual marketplace and men’s issues. Everything from porn use, to marriage, to pre-marital sex is being covered. Everyone can see that men are failing in 2022, and, as a consequence, so are our societies. Most men are weak, overweight, and socially awkward. They have been failed by their society and by their fathers, to the point where more and more young men than ever are checking out altogether.
The response many have to these men who are checking out is for them to “man up” and take more responsibility. This response seems correct. Surely, if men are the leaders of any society, it only makes sense for us to encourage them to take and live up to their responsibilities? Not quite, for there is something else at play here in this argument that many fail to see. What the Dissident Right really needs to understand is that so much of the patriarch and “based marriage” talk is, at best, a half measure in addressing what actually needs to be done.
Tradcons are actually, whether they know it or not, participating in the man hatred going on in our society. They encourage men to fall into their traditional roles and to take up their positions as leaders, without giving them any of the incentives that once existed as a reward for them taking on such burdens. Telling men to return to the church or to get married is not going to fix the problem, unless they have authority to accompany that. What so many Tradcons are pushing is a bottom-up solution to a top-down problem. We know from Elite Theory that, in order for Christian sexual morality to work, it must be enforced from the top down by those in positions of power and influence. Without the power to back their ideas, and without the strict enforcement of those rules, they will fail. What the Tradcons present as a solution, while noble, is out of place and what I call “Right-Wing Feminism.”
The problem with the solutions presented by many on the Right is that they fundamentally come from a place of putting women first. You see this all the time — from single mothers, to women in the workforce, to the trans issue. “If men would just man up, then all of women’s issues would go away.” There are two issues with this line of thinking.
First, this is a veiled way of telling men to be better in service of women and women’s mating strategy, rather than telling men to be better for their own interests. Men have issues which need addressing, and they should have better lives in service of themselves; our women will benefit as a byproduct. Looking at modern courtship today, and it’s abundantly clear that men are being raised like defective girls. Men are fed lies at every turn about women’s nature and how to attract them. They painstakingly stress about every little text asking themselves: “what should I say?” This is an inversion of the past where women needed men for security and provisioning, and thus would swoon over men in numbers. The woman qualified to the man, while in gynocentrism the man qualifies to the woman. The audacity of women to go marching around in pink pussy hats and making complete fools of themselves is all you need to see. They don’t feel like they have to qualify to anyone, or live up to ANY standards. Pushing more standards on men, but zero for women is not a workable formula.
A man does not exist solely to give a woman a happy life, to protect her, or to ensure that she doesn’t have to go into the workforce. All of these things come at a cost, and are part of a careful balance that has been fine-tuned throughout the ages. If a man is to have responsibility for the income of the house, be criminally liable for any decisions made by the family unit, and put his life on the line for the protection of the family, that ought to come with the authority over the household. What men have today is 100% responsibility and 0% authority, while women have the inverse. If you want men to take up that responsibility, you had better give them the authority. And that is a conversation nobody wants to have because it leads to unflattering truths about society, the church, and women’s nature.
The second issue is that encouraging men to participate in the current rigged game is only setting them up for failure. What is being presented as based patriarchs leading an army of Hank Hills is actually a small number of religious patriarchs, with zero institutional power, attempting to lead a massive rabble of henpecked men. While, yes, it is true that men should lead and should also protect their women and families, that comes with women following and being submissive to their men. Again, responsibility and authority. You can not ask men to “man up” without also bringing women to heel. You will see endless talk about holding men to account, but very little, if any, for women. I have zero interest in dogpiling on men when our entire gynocentric society is already doing that to them. Things will not change until the incentives change.
What can Tradcons actually guarantee for men in the marriage game? They can’t guarantee a traditional woman who is a virgin. They can’t guarantee financial support for a man trying to buy a house or start a family at a young age. They can’t guarantee that his wife will be submissive and an asset to his mission. They can’t guarantee that she wants children or that she’s even attractive. They can’t guarantee that the man’s needs will be met in the bedroom. They can’t guarantee him access to his children or finances, should he get divorced — which is becoming more and more likely by the day. They can’t even guarantee leadership in his own house, or that his decisions will be respected in the community!
But still, the Tradcons will cling to an old order ideal and reflexively parrot: “Man up!” All that they can say is that you will be rewarded in the afterlife and that this is what “a real man” does. They appeal to some vague notion of masculinity — pulled straight from a Miller Lite commercial — and make promises of rewards in the afterlife, and even that they can’t guarantee! The Tradcon pitch for marriage is weak and will not attract men to the institution until men regain power and change the incentives. You can argue and scream all day about how young men should value God as the number one thing in their lives, but the fact of the matter is: they don’t, and most never will. Young men — the ones who haven’t checked out at least — are looking for power, for young women, and for money. You can say that you don’t want these men in your movement, but these are the men that get shit done. These are the men who will lead an army or start a company that can support Right-Wing causes financially. You need these men for the movement to succeed, end of story.
What actually needs to happen is a change in incentives, which can only occur from a place of power and strength. On an individual level, this comes from having an abundance mindset with women and having a lot of experience with them. A man succeeds in this current dating marketplace by knowing what women are like, how to attract them, and how to keep them; and by possessing such high value and status to the point he has a plethora of options regarding women. And on a societal level, it will require men like this — who have the experience so that they won’t be subverted by women (simping) — to change the incentives from the top down. In order to change the rules, laws, and incentive structures, we need strong men to take back the highest positions of power in our society.
I’m not implying that such behavior is required of every man, but for those of us trying to create a new class of elites, I don’t see a way around this problem. Part of attaining power, as a man, is having power over women. Imagine if we did “clear them out” and our guys got into power, and at the first sign of women chasing power up the social hierarchy, we see our guys cave into simping. Sounds absurd, but look no further than characters today like Eric Swalwell, Will Smith, or Johnny Depp. All of these powerful men were subverted by foreign femme fatales or abusive and psychopathic women.
Politics is bloody, and this fight against the current regime is going to be the most difficult in history: they have quite literally destroyed male and female relationships that have lasted for thousands of years. We must encourage a return to masculinity and the warrior spirit, if we want things to change. It is far more important to train our boys into the kinds of men we need and to put men’s issues first — especially in the context of a society that is so vehemently against them — than it is to fulfill women’s mating strategy. Our women will be taken care of as a byproduct of male success. I want to win, and the way I see it, this is the best way for us to do so. Until then, I will continue to give men the tools that they need to succeed in their own best interests, and I will not shame them for that.
I don't see how tradcons can assume this "manning up"-thing is the godly thing to do. Jesus never married. St. Paul never married. In fact, Paul taught that it is better and more righteous to live a celibate life without women, than to marry.
I see this be better and hope for the best line of thinking all across the right and the distant right,. Especially in the legal circles I find myself in., I cannot tell you how frustrating it is talking to right wing judges and lawyers who fall themselves into believing that judicial independence is a reality, and not a vehicle of containment.